Curse

Winner · Aug 14, 2012, 10:38 AM // 10:38

Good. It was abused in few builds, this should balance it perfectly. It won't kill it but it won't be too strong. Good on you Anet!

Sankt Hallvard · Aug 14, 2012, 10:59 AM // 10:59

Won't kill it? Show me a build that's "perfectly balanced" please.

E N I G M A · Aug 14, 2012, 08:47 PM // 20:47

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Originally Posted by superraptors

superiors was the normal back in the day but sadly due to power creep over the years it has made it a risk but still very much usable.

It was normal in the good ol' days because you could actually switch out your armor while in combat. Power creep had nothing to do with it.

Well, the flux was fun while it lasted.

superraptors · Aug 14, 2012, 09:56 PM // 21:56

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Originally Posted by E N I G M A

It was normal in the good ol' days because you could actually switch out your armor while in combat. Power creep had nothing to do with it.

Well, the flux was fun while it lasted.

yeah you could switch, but the fact that unconditional damage(and other conditional) has been buffed pretty hard over the years is undeniable and makes using superiors a risk.

Xenomortis · Aug 14, 2012, 10:23 PM // 22:23

On the upshot, the final GW MAT will effectively have no flux.

E N I G M A · Aug 14, 2012, 10:32 PM // 22:32

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Originally Posted by superraptors

yeah you could switch, but the fact that unconditional damage(and other conditional) has been buffed pretty hard over the years is undeniable and makes using superiors a risk.

It can't be that hard to double-click. But then again armor swapping was gone before nightfall came out so we will never know.

superraptors · Aug 15, 2012, 06:46 AM // 06:46

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Originally Posted by E N I G M A

It can't be that hard to double-click. But then again armor swapping was gone before nightfall came out so we will never know.

yeah well obviously i am talking about the present, maybe you should learn to read? don't they teach you how to in Europe?

Winner · Aug 15, 2012, 07:00 AM // 07:00

Played with fluxed ele yesterday, it works perfectly. We had tons of HA wins. Problem is obviously that it's only good for ele, and maybe codex monk and mes.

Wielder Of Magic · Aug 15, 2012, 09:59 AM // 09:59

But is the reward from the flux really good enough to gimp yourself into spreading into 4 different attributes with a minimum of 10, meaning you will probably suck at all of them?

Only MoM eles can pull this off without gimping themselves, and enchantment removal will simply screw you even harder then usual ( lets be honest, every HA team that is serious and not some fail spike uw farm brings deep enchantment removal)

Winner · Aug 15, 2012, 10:35 AM // 10:35

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Originally Posted by Wielder Of Magic

But is the reward from the flux really good enough to gimp yourself into spreading into 4 different attributes with a minimum of 10, meaning you will probably suck at all of them?

Only MoM eles can pull this off without gimping themselves, and enchantment removal will simply screw you even harder then usual ( lets be honest, every HA team that is serious and not some fail spike uw farm brings deep enchantment removal)

We had Mind Blast as elite in HA yesterday, worked perfectly with the flux, exactly the same damage as without the flux but casting time and energy are improved, works really good. You just have to expand your mind and be creative

E N I G M A · Aug 15, 2012, 10:58 AM // 10:58

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Originally Posted by superraptors

yeah well obviously i am talking about the present, maybe you should learn to read? don't they teach you how to in Europe?

Perhaps you should take your own advice or is your education really that shitty?

I was merely responding to what you said about the use of superior runes.

Quote:

superiors was the normal back in the day but sadly due to power creep over the years it has made it a risk but still very much usable.

You are basically saying power creep is the reason why sup runes aren't used much correct?

I responded with:

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It was normal in the good ol' days because you could actually switch out your armor while in combat. Power creep had nothing to do with it.

I'm pretty much saying the reason why sup runes were used frequently in the past was because of the ability to armor swap. Sup runes are not used much now because that ability was removed, which is basically the point I am trying to make. That pretty much go in tandem with the shit you were saying about the present and leads to the bold part. I think it's a pretty big part that contributed to me believing you are a complete idiot.

You then spurted shit about even if you could switch, power creep would still make sup runes risky. I find this to be complete bullshit. I mean, people do swap to different weapon sets or weapon swap to cancel attack skills right? Armor swapping is basically the same thing. How risky is it really when you can change armor sets on the fly? You fear a spike or too much pressure? Switch to your minor rune piece. Feeling a little safe? Switch to sup rune and go pew pew pew.

So yea, have a nice day.

P.S. I'm not European so don't hate on them. Sure they may speak a little funny but they are nice and very kind people. But if you must hate a nation, hate America, or Asia, because I'm an Asian in America.

superraptors · Aug 15, 2012, 10:45 PM // 22:45

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Originally Posted by E N I G M A

Perhaps you should take your own advice or is your education really that shitty?

I was merely responding to what you said about the use of superior runes.

You are basically saying power creep is the reason why sup runes aren't used much correct?

I responded with:

I'm pretty much saying the reason why sup runes were used frequently in the past was because of the ability to armor swap. Sup runes are not used much now because that ability was removed, which is basically the point I am trying to make. That pretty much go in tandem with the shit you were saying about the present and leads to the bold part. I think it's a pretty big part that contributed to me believing you are a complete idiot.

You then spurted shit about even if you could switch, power creep would still make sup runes risky. I find this to be complete bullshit. I mean, people do swap to different weapon sets or weapon swap to cancel attack skills right? Armor swapping is basically the same thing. How risky is it really when you can change armor sets on the fly? You fear a spike or too much pressure? Switch to your minor rune piece. Feeling a little safe? Switch to sup rune and go pew pew pew.

So yea, have a nice day.

P.S. I'm not European so don't hate on them. Sure they may speak a little funny but they are nice and very kind people. But if you must hate a nation, hate America, or Asia, because I'm an Asian in America.

Not using superior runes because switching armor pieces isn't available isn't the sole reason they aren't used. People only ever swapped out superiors when they started building up dp and changing armor pieces during a spike back in 2005? lol people didn't even learn how to use a shield yet what makes you think people would do it in midspike, did you get dropped on your egghead multiple times when you were young? or did god didn't give you something called common sense because he kept you in the oven too long lad? I'll let you figure that one out.